Thought for Today (4/15/2016)

Many scholars claim that the 10 plagues of Exodus in the Old Testament did not happen because they are not recorded in the ancient records of Egypt.  My question back is:  During that period, when the Pharaohs claimed to be gods, how many of them recorded their failures?

In ancient records, the victors recorded their victories and the defeated tried to forget them.  The exception is the Bible where the Old Testament records not only victories by when God allowed other nations to rule over the Israelites as punishment.

Today’s thought for the day:

Don’t make judgments on the past by the standards of today because you are likely to be wrong. ~ ME 


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4 Responses to Thought for Today (4/15/2016)

  1. I by no means wish to deride your faith. You have however made a argument in response to historical criticisms of the notion of the Israelite rebellion against and exodus from Egypt. I am sorry to say that your current argument is insufficient. The evidence required to substantiate the exodus event is not isolated to whether or not a parchment recorded the defeat of Egypt; in this you effectively put forward a false condition to refute.

    The problem is that the Sinai peninsula, where the exodus occurred, was virtually unpopulated during 2nd millennium BC. There also exists no physical evidence of, “about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children” who lived in the desert for almost four decades. Such an exodus would certainly have left tremendous archaeological evidence both with the deprived Egypt and the then tremendously over-populated Sinai deserts. No evidence of any kind has yet been found.

    Again, I do no wish to attack your faith, but I do believe that in this instance scientific and historical evidence contradicts a literal interpretation of these events.

    • If your argument is that “since it has not been found, it did not happen”, that is not a valid stance. If so, the earth does not exist because we cannot prove scientifically the beginnings of the universe.

      The exact route of the exodus is not known and so where do you look?
      In over 2000 years, how much of the terrain has changed? No permanent dwellings were built as they roamed the desert for 40 years. Key word in the previous sentence was roamed; denoting that they were nomadic.

      To ‘prove’ your theory that the exodus did not happen, you would have to excavate the entirety of the Sinai peninsula down to extreme depths (because of the shifting sands) and find absolutely no evidence of travel between the Arabian peninsula and Egypt.

      You state that in the 2nd millennium BC the Sinai peninsula was virtually unpopulated. What is your proof of that (not that I agree or disagree)?

      Late last night I watched two different documentaries on the exodus. One person determined in his mind that the Israelites took one route because of reasons he explained. His reasoning was feasible, but had no proof. The other documentary had them taking a totally different route. In both cases, they looked at today’s terrain to determine the routes taken.

      All of this and yet you are off point from the beginning of your response.
      My post was there are those who argue that the exodus did not happen because the Egyptians did not record it. My point was, and still is that at that time, Egypt and many other nations did not record failures, only victories and to use the lack of any Egyptian Pharaoh recording being forced to let his slaves free, is sophistry at best.

      • I think I failed to articulate myself, and for that I am sorry. I also again feel like by even participating in this argument, which I think is a good one, I may be without intention insulting your faith– this is not my intention. It is not that I can prove the exodus didn’t occur. I can’t. No one can prove a negative. However, we can contest a positive statement. In this instance, the positive statement is that in the 2nd millenium BC the Egyptians had a minimum of 600 000 and likely 2 million slaves (Exodus only specifies the number of adult males, so we’ve to estimate the number of women and children) liberate and exile themselves. They then roamed the desert for almost four decades.

        A positive statement, to be substantiated, must have what is called a null hypothesis. This is, ‘What constitutes failure to prove, or what evidence should be expected’. The null hypothesis here would be a lack of archaeological evidence of a massive, unprecedented diaspora. As we’ve yet to provide sufficient physical or historical evidence of this migration, it reasonable to say that we have not scientifically substantiated a literal interpretation of Exodus. This doesn’t necessarily mean that it didn’t happen and certainly doesn’t mean the central moral allegory of the story is not worthy or even divine. It just means that it is the responsibility of proponents of a literal interpretation to provide evidence.

  2. The three main monotheistic religions do have all the evidence needed for our faith. The evidence is the Book of Exodus, a written record of the Israelites leaving Egypt. For a contention of that to have any weight at all would be evidence, not the lack thereof, that the written record is incorrect.

    Archeologists have found that Jericho did exist and during the time of Joshua the walls did fall.
    Joshua is the one selected by Moses to lead the people into the Promised Land as God forbade Moses from crossing the Jordan River. The archeologists also found that the time of the year that is recorded for the falling of Jericho matches the Bible and that the city was burned was also verified.

    So why would you be able to accept that Jericho did fall, and not accept the 40 years prior to that?

    As far as my faith is concerned, I have had others disrespect my beliefs and it is no consequence to me because according to my beliefs, that is for them to try and justify on judgment day, not mine. In fact, I like to refer non-believers to Pascal’s Wager and leave it at that.

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